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[Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:23 pm

ive been playin this FPS game..
i search for the ammo in data type(byte & long(tried both)),got the address(not wrong address,i can change the value)...
then i did a multilevel pointer search,
but i never get a static address(green address)..
is it because the game is hard to hack or somethin?
ive done nothing wrong at all..did the multilevel search exactly from this youtube video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3690R8B4JM

it worked when i tried it on a CE tutorial..
HELP!! desperate in pointers.. lol..

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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby L. Spiro » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:30 pm

The game may be protected by an anti-cheat or it may simply be a very complex game. You have not given enough details on your problem.
And static addresses are not always green. That can again happen when the game uses an anti-cheat.


You should post what results you got and how you got them.


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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:47 pm

Ok...
i'll post my SS about how i scan the game..
btw..the game is called Point Blank(Online FPS game)..has a anti-cheat protection..

Step 1
-DELETED- Got my ID name.not an important SS dow.
this is the Lobby..then i start the game..

Step 2
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I scanned for the value of my ammunition..

Step 3
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Decrease my addresses by doing a sub search (NEXT Search)

Step 4
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Got the address and it worked..cuz when i freeze it i get unlimited ammo.

Step 5
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Did a multipointer search by putting address of bullet

Step 6
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Used the nearest address in this case is 28807680 to do another pointer search from 28807000 to 28807680 (sry no pic,not enuf time for SS) took the nearest address copied it to complex address.. [[0xnew addy]+0xoffset]+0x128

Step 7
did the same as step 6...multiple times..more than 10x
but no green address..suppose because of anti cheat,juz like wat u said?
but then..if static addresses arent always green,how do you know if its static?

Step 8
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New round(2nd round),address doesnt work anymore..btw,ive thicked the box "Use Complex Address" before the end of the 1st round.

Sry if its hard 2 understand..not really good in explaining..

Help..??
thx b4..
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby L. Spiro » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:11 am

You have opened the process in Restricted Mode. There are no green addresses in Restricted Mode.
You have to determine for yourself what addresses are static by looking at them. It is easy to tell; they typically begin with 004***** or 005*****.


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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:49 pm

thx very much..
i'll try it again..

one last question..
should i tick/untick the "Find Static Pointers"?

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or should i just untick it and do a multilevel pointer search until i find a 004*** / 005*** address?
oh yes..how about if i cant find this 004***/005**** address??is that possible to happen?

thx again.. ^^
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby WhiteHat » Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:17 am

ZuN wrote:or should i just untick it and do a multilevel pointer search until i find a 004*** / 005*** address?
Personally, i always leave “Find Only Static Pointer” option un-thick...


ZuN wrote:oh yes..how about if i cant find this 004***/005**** address??is that possible to happen?
It is possible. In case of WarCraft3, some static pointers reside within game.dll modul, which address starts at 0x6F000000...
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:29 pm

Err..

I still can't find the static addresses..

so far what ive found is 04*****/05*****...
is it the same as 004****/005****?

i'll keep trying...

thx again.. =D
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby WhiteHat » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:42 pm

ZuN wrote:so far what ive found is 04*****/05*****...
is it the same as 004****/005****?
They are not the same:
- 0x0004**** could be 0x0004ABCD
- 0x004***** could be 0x004ABCDE


Now on other thing, i’ve re-read your post with lots of screenshots in it, and would like to comment on your quotes at step #6:
Took the nearest address and set it in at Complex, module blank. I’ve tried ticking/unticking the use Complex Address. No difference.
AFAIK, it must make difference whether we tick/untick that option though it does not seem so. If we’re gonna build pointers, then this option must be ticked, otherwise the address won’t work in later usage... Been using this for thousands of mainlist entries, that i’m positive about it...

However, if finding pointers looks that hard, then you may want other method like Group Search. I happened to use this alot back then, and wrote a tut about it. The real objective is to obtain the correct address with as fewest sub-search as possible. You can find it here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2108. If you feel interested, then post some screenshot showing other values around your bullet address. Who knows there are pretty unique values around it with which you can reduce the need for sub-searching greatly...

BTW, just out of curiousity, is this Indonesian Point Blank?
I get the impression from one of your screenshots. There are some familiar words: “Nama”, “Jumlah Kabur”, “Akumulasi”... :roll:
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:15 pm

WhiteHat wrote:
ZuN wrote:so far what ive found is 04*****/05*****...
is it the same as 004****/005****?
They are not the same:
- 0x0004**** could be 0x0004ABCD
- 0x004***** could be 0x004ABCDE

Alright...thx ^^

about the step 6 pic..i wrote wrong,i tick it...not unticked...lol..
my bad..haha..

yes..
this is indonesian pointblank...
im an indonesian...
trying to find pointers for MHS..because in my cheating forum nobody knows how to do it...
thats y im so desperate..rofl...

anyway,about the tutor,it still has connection with pointers rite?
i'll read it..thx for your advice.. ^^

BTW,r u an indonesian?
ur location is central java..lol..
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby WhiteHat » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:23 am

ZuN wrote:this is indonesian pointblank...
im an indonesian...
trying to find pointers for MHS..because in my cheating forum nobody knows how to do it...
thats y im so desperate..rofl...
Would you tell me the name of your forum then? Is it nyit-nyit? That’s about the only Indonesian cheating forum that i know of...


ZuN wrote:anyway,about the tutor,it still has connection with pointers rite?
i'll read it..thx for your advice.. ^^
The one i gave you have nothing to do with building pointers directly. I was thinking that you need to build pointer to speed up your search so i gave you that.

Anyway, MHS forum has some discussions regard building pointers (Complex Address in MHS term). Two of them are:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2592
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2695

The first one, however, explains same method as you did. Guess you have read it.. While the other uses MHS Auto-Hack which i’m not sure if it’s gonna work since PB is an online game with some anti-cheat protection...

What is the anti-cheat for this Point Blank if may i know ? I don’t play much online games... ^^;


ZuN wrote:BTW,r u an indonesian?
ur location is central java..lol..
Yes, i am Indonesian. I’m from Central Java, Jogja... So, salam kenal.... ^^
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:49 pm

WhiteHat wrote:
ZuN wrote:this is indonesian pointblank...
im an indonesian...
trying to find pointers for MHS..because in my cheating forum nobody knows how to do it...
thats y im so desperate..rofl...
Would you tell me the name of your forum then? Is it nyit-nyit? That’s about the only Indonesian cheating forum that i know of...

Anyway, MHS forum has some discussions regard building pointers (Complex Address in MHS term). Two of them are:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2592
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2695

The first one, however, explains same method as you did. Guess you have read it.. While the other uses MHS Auto-Hack which i’m not sure if it’s gonna work since PB is an online game with some anti-cheat protection...

What is the anti-cheat for this Point Blank if may i know ? I don’t play much online games... ^^;


yep...nyit-nyit..
the best cheat forum at indo..
but all the pointers discussion r mostly about UCE engine..
since that MHS is still quite new in the forum...

i don't think auto-hack will work..
but i'll try it 1st...thx 4 ur advice.. ^^

its using HackShield...
if im not mistaken...

nice to meet u too...
Salam Kenal..hahaha...

still trying to find the pointers...haizzz...
Lol..

er...1 question..
on ur guide..when u did an exact value pointer search,how do u know which to choose??
how to test the address? o.0
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby WhiteHat » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:17 am

ZuN wrote:on ur guide..when u did an exact value pointer search,how do u know which to choose??
how to test the address? o.0
thx b4
It only seemed that i knew which pointer to choose but it was not. In that tutorial, there were few pointers to trace in each step. However it does not mean that i did not try each one of them in the process. It was a trouble some task and happened to be working yet the chance for this method (back-tracing) not to work is about equal to the chance it will... This is the main reason for only few people who hack games use back-tracing. They prefer code-injection instead...

However, for online games which most likely accompany various anti-cheats with them, the only option that seems to be available to build a working table (MHS Main List) is the one you did before (Josese’s Tutorial) for altering game code and debugging is mostly forbidden by the anti-cheat module...

How’s nyit-nyit doing by the way? It’s been quite a while since my last visit... :roll:
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:25 pm

WhiteHat wrote:
ZuN wrote:on ur guide..when u did an exact value pointer search,how do u know which to choose??
how to test the address? o.0
thx b4
It only seemed that i knew which pointer to choose but it was not. In that tutorial, there were few pointers to trace in each step. However it does not mean that i did not try each one of them in the process. It was a trouble some task and happened to be working yet the chance for this method (back-tracing) not to work is about equal to the chance it will... This is the main reason for only few people who hack games use back-tracing. They prefer code-injection instead...

However, for online games which most likely accompany various anti-cheats with them, the only option that seems to be available to build a working table (MHS Main List) is the one you did before (Josese’s Tutorial) for altering game code and debugging is mostly forbidden by the anti-cheat module...

How’s nyit-nyit doing by the way? It’s been quite a while since my last visit... :roll:



ok2...
i guess i should just stick to josese TuT..
because i think the other method is quite confusing..
haha..
till now i still can't find the static address.. =.=

it's fine...
which part of forum where you active in?
i'm just active in PointBlank forum..since that's the only game i'm playing now.. :)
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby WhiteHat » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:01 pm

Looks like the only option is to try the addresses out to find if they are static ones... No pain no gain...

I made hacks for Pangya, O2Jam, and Ghost Online. Released tuts for nyit-nyit about the first two games.
Even i post some of them here: viewtopic.php?p=1118&sid=c006b3cab19943d1cff1bd089118072f#p1118,
about 3 years ago... The tut about pangya is still available there, i think...

Only later, i found that i enjoy hacking Offline (single player) games...
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Re: [Help!!] Multilevel Pointer!! Can't Get Static Address!

Postby ZuN » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:01 pm

At last!!!
i've managed to get the static address..

i don't know why...
when i tried it on XP,i could get a GREEN address!
although its in restricted mode..

but when i tried it on VISTA,no GREEN address..even if i scanned almost more then 20x deep!

thx 2 WhiteHat n L.Spiro for helping me..

i'm so happy,LOL.. :D :D :D

Oh yes.. is there a guide for trainers and hotkeys?
thx b4..^^
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